Questions
Frequently attempted defenses
These are the arguments the subject reliably produces. They are answered here against the text of the rules rather than against anybody’s character.
Is it curbing if I let my dog go on the tree pit instead of the sidewalk?
Better than the middle of the walkway, and still not curbing. A tree pit is a planting bed that somebody weeds by hand, and nitrogen in urine is what kills what is growing in it — not acidity, which is the version most people have heard.[8]
Curbing has a destination. It is about four feet further on.
My dog peed on a subway grate — that’s basically already outside, right?
Everything on a sidewalk is already outside. “Outside” has never been the standard.
A grate is a ventilation opening and an access hatch. Con Edison’s specification for the ones over its vaults says they “provide ventilation for the transformer as well as a means of entry for Con Edison personnel to maintain, remove, or install equipment.”[9] It goes down, and then a person climbs through it.
Does it count if I stand at the curb while my dog pees on the building three feet behind me?
The rule addresses the animal’s position rather than yours. § 161.03 names “a fence, wall or stairway of a building abutting on a public place.”[1]
Your own excellent placement is noted and does not transfer.
Is a fire hydrant a valid curb substitute?
No. A hydrant stands on the sidewalk, which is the surface you are trying to avoid, and it is handled by hand by people who are having a much worse day than you are.
There is also a harder reason. On a wet night, metal at street level is the last thing you want a dog in contact with — contact voltage from deteriorated underground cables can energize hydrant bases, lampposts and grates.[10]
My dog only pees for about two seconds. Does that even count?
Duration is not an element. The Health Code defines animal nuisances to include urine and does not attach a stopwatch to it.[2]
If I don’t see it happen, did it happen?
Yes.
The wording is “shall not permit,” which contemplates precisely the owner who was looking at their phone.[1]
I always pick up after my dog. Isn’t that the same thing?
That is step two, and you are doing it, and it is genuinely the harder of the two in every respect except one: you have to remember the bag.
Step one costs nothing and requires no equipment. It is simply where, and it happens thirty seconds before the part you are already doing.
Come on. Nobody is enforcing this.
Almost certainly not, in your case. Very little of this is enforced, and the record on the pickup law — the one people have heard of — is not impressive either.
The argument here has never been that you will be fined. It is that the rule exists, says what it says, and describes something you can do at no cost while already outdoors.
Isn’t this a lot of fuss about a small thing?
Yes. That is more or less the position.
A city is a very large number of small things done by a very large number of people, most of whom will never meet. This is one of the cheapest of them.
A note on the answers
Where an answer cites a rule, the rule is quoted from the issuing body’s own published text — see Sources. Nothing on this page is legal advice, and none of it is a defense in a proceeding that is not going to happen to you.